Post subject: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:12 pm
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Well, I just couldn't believe the contradictory stories I've been hearing about "yesterdays" oil spill on Rt 346 (as reported in the local media) so I went out there this afternoon to see for myself.
In the article in the Bradford Era today it was reported that the "spill" (I would call it a well blow out) was reported yesterday, Tuesday Aug 30th 2011. But "others" who live in the area, reported smelling it for a day or more before the authorities recognized it. So there is a debate as to when it started "spewing" oil, gas or *whatever* it is leaking out of the well.
I can tell you with certainty, that it's not your normal oil or gas smell. It's much more serious than that.
The article in the Era starts out "an estimated 50 to 75 gallons of oil leaked out of an oil gathering line near Willow Creek on Tuesday".
I talked to some who smelled it before Tuesday, so that for whatever it's worth, you can either belive eyewitness testimony from somebody who lives near there, or what the "authorities" told the Bradford Era.
Later in the article it says: "Corydon Township Volunteer fire Department Assistant Chief Matt Cobb said he had no idea when the spill began, although he said that residents were reporting the noxious smell earlier in the morning. Initial reports indicated about a gallon of oil per minute was spilling into willow creek, and the smell could be detected from at least two miles away".
For arguments sake, some believe it was leaking on Monday, so figger it leaked for two days, or 48 hours. Do the math! A gallon per minute times 60 minutes per hour, and then times 48 hours, is that 50 gallons or 75 gallons? I'm not sure how some of these *liars for the industry* can lie What might be hundreds of gallons down to "50 to 75 gallons".
They also said that "no oil reached Willow Bay". Oh really? Then why is there oil in Willow Bay?
What I witnessed today was what I believe is a totally inadequate boom system that was allowing oil to reach all the way down to what I would consider "Willow Bay", that is, past the bridge next to the Willow Bay Campground, and I was told by somebody who was at Willow Bay that there was oil in the water in the bay.
I got photos, actual photos that show oil UNDER the downstream side of the bridge at Willow Bay.
AND I got video of somebody who caught a fish in Willow Bay that seems to have damage from *whatever* it is leaking into the bay from Willow Creek.
My guess is that it's some form of "fracking fluids" or caustic agents that are in the water and the air that is causing the noxious odors and damage to the fish. I can say with certainty that it's more than just "ordinary" oil and gas! I NEVER smelled oil or gas like that! I might even suspect that it's H2S. Time will tell, because the workers weren't wearing any protective masks or ventilators. Sucks to be them!
Here is my youtube video from earlier today! If for no other reason, watch it for the fish!
If the fish looks familiar ............
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"One gallon per minute" does not add up to 50 or 75 gallons over two days or so!
And a representative from the fish and boat commission told me there were 15 booms set up all along the creek ...... WHY THEN was there still a steady flow of oil covered water going under the last bridge into Willow Bay?
AND IF it was completely stopped or "shut off" like it said in the Era, why is there still oil flowing down the stream? The water is moving about 2 to 4 MPH and it was only 3 miles from the leak to the bay. IF it was completely stopped, there should be no oil still flowing all the way to the bay after about an hour or an hour and a half. It should be all clean water flowing, AND they claim to have 15 booms set up between the leaking well and the bay. That seems to me to indicate that it's still leaking, and their booms are doing a totally inadequate job!
The main concern should be stopping any and all oil from going further downstream.
Warning: Don't go out to Willow Bay until the leak is really stopped (the fumes might kill you!) and don't eat the fish from Willow Creek or Willow Bay! You are better off eating the three-eyed fish from Springfield, caught below the Nuclear Reactor!
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:49 pm
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Mercaptan, Hydrogen Sulfide... There are many mercaptans, all with different smells. Highly strong smell and toxic above a certain concentration. Hydrogen Sulfide has a distinct rotten egg smell, and is not only toxic, but explosive.
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:47 pm
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libertarian wrote:
Nothing more in todays paper, Is this being overblown here on BT, or is this a cover up?
Just the usuall overblown stories on BT!
Just because there is oil flowing into Willow Bay at a rate of (*undetermined volumes*) per minute, and the chemical fumes in the air would likely harm or kill young babies, don't mean it's a newsworthy story!
The Era likes the safe stuff like what color fire hydrants around town are painted. As does the other local media.
Oil spills are something to be kept quiet and not talked about in the media!
Oh, when is that public meeting to discuss the cause of the houses blowing up in Bradford we were promised in January?
Buy the way, ANYBODY (not just investagative reporters) can go out there and witness this themselves.
I'd bet my last dollar that:
1. There is still, today, oil flowing down the stream (despite 15 booms).
2. There is still a lingering noxious or toxic odor in the area.
3. There is oil in Willow Bay.
All newsworthy stories in my humble opinion.
PS- There may even be a story about the dead fish, and animal life if one were to walk the length of the poisioned creek.
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:00 pm
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Some of what you say may be true Stoney, but if I remember correctly, the Era was up in arms over being shut out of the secret "explosion" meeting by the powers that be.
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:32 pm
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I went back tonght to check the progress of the clean up.
I was right about there still being an odor, and there still being oil flowing down the creek. Miles downstream! I didn't check to see if there was oil in Willow Bay, and I did not see any dead fish in the small sections of creek I could see that close to dark.
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:54 am
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citizen wrote:
from todays Era; "less than 25 gallons spilled with zero reaching Willow Bay."
LOL! I would estimate that in the short time I was there, I witnessed more than 25 gallons going under the last bridge and flowing into Willow Bay! LOL!
I wonder if some of these "experts" or the reporters aren't blind? Or blind, deaf, dumb and mute as well as having no sense of smell?
The extremely pungent, noxious, and/or toxic odor that permeated the air for a two or three mile stretch was NOT "less than 25 gallons of oil" spilled, and everybody who witnessed it knows that to be a fact!
Post subject: Re: The Willow Creek Oil Spill on Rt 346
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:26 am
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Just as a side comment, when the media prints bald-faced lies told by "the authorities" in situations like this, all it does is solidify those same said sources as liars!
Enough people will realize the real truth.
Some of these government agencies have no credibility at all with growing numbers of people who can see the truth for themselves.
Why then, did the paper report, and I quote: "Corydon Township Volunteer fire Department Assistant Chief Matt Cobb said he had no idea when the spill began, although he said that residents were reporting the noxious smell earlier in the morning. Initial reports indicated about a gallon of oil per minute was spilling into willow creek, and the smell could be detected from at least two miles away".
Some local residents report the smell starting on Monday, and perhaps it was Monday morning. But the leak wasn't located until a couple days later! How much spilled in those two days? And apparently somebody witnessed it flowing out of a pipe at the rate of about 1 gallon per minute for an unknown amount of time.
And who believes that "less than 25 gallons of oil" can be smelled two miles away? I've come across many, many "open vats" of oil out in the woods that may have been over one or two hundred gallons, that you would only smell as you approached the vat.
And oil, no matter how concentrated it is or how fresh it is don't produce an odor that would make a person immediately sick or dizzy like that odor out there on Wednesday and Thursday did.
Under reporting an event like this by so much, either makes "them" look dishonest, or incompetent or BOTH!
And if you don't believe what I report, or I can show with photos and videos, by all means go out there for yourself and talk to the locals who witnessed this for themselves!
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