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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:00 am 
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Flashback wrote; "Nothing in the law does a single thing to stop criminals from killing. Nothing in the law stops deranged homocidal maniacs from going to a school and kill kids. Nothing in the law does anything to limit crimes. All it does is put further restrictions on law abiding citizens. Oh and raises the fees to follow the law. Until common sense and serious debate about the issue happen, nothing will change." and "What criminal is going to follow the law? What deranged maniac intent on killing people is going to follow the law. Based on the magazine ban in the new NY law they did nothing but put limits on the law abiding citizens of their states." Amen on both statements, Great post.

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Who do you think is behind the "shadow government" that is controlling us? Who do you think the real enemy is?

Right now, our government, to both questions. Pick anything that the government has done that you think is good for us. Pick anything you think a big corporation has done against us. I'll gladly debate. Start a new thread though.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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HARRISBURG. State Representative Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler) announced his legislation that would make any new federal gun control laws unenforceable within the Commonwealth."Passage of my legislation will send the message that there will never be additional gun control, anywhere in Pennsylvania,said Metcalfe. Whether by White House executive orders, congressional fiat, or judicial activism, we will never allow the left to benefit from the wicked acts of murderers in order advance their senseless gun-grabbing agenda which would only succeed in replacing one of our most sacred personal liberties with the chains of government tyranny.
Similar to legislation most recently introduced in Wyoming and Texas, Metcalfe's Right to Bear Arms Protection Act (House Bill 357) would:

Prohibit enforcement of any new federal registration, restriction or prohibition requirement for privately owned firearms, magazines and ammunition.
Require the state of Pennsylvania, including the Office of Attorney General, to intercede on behalf of Commonwealth citizens against any federal attempt to register, restrict or ban the purchase or ownership of firearms and firearms accessories which are currently legal products.

Here is YOUR CHANCE to support something and make a difference. Here is the direct link to sign the petition supporting what you just read above! Please do it.
http://www.repmetcalfe.com/guncontrol2013.aspx
and if that does not work then go here www.repmetcalfe.com and place your mouse on petitions (on the left side and in red) and you will see 4 petitions (all worthy of looking at). The "standing up to gun control" petition is at the bottom. Click on it and fill it out please!!
Thanks to all who do this and be sure to forward the info onto everyone in PA that you know will support this!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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Atakith, with all due respect, you do realize that this guy along with Kathy Rapp are a couple loons don't you?

I'm pretty sure states can't just "opt out" of federal legislation they don't like! At least Texas had the right idea .... If you don't like America ....LEAVE! They wanted to secede from the union!

But a state deciding it don't like all the rules .... THAT won't work. The first, most obvious thing the fed can do is cut off all federal dollars to that state. That alone would ruin Pa. But what I hope will be the best solution, would be to arrest and jail the lunatics in our state government that defies federal law!

Let me ask a serious question? Where were these loons when BUSH took our liberties away with the Patriot Act? Weren't those liberties just as important to them as the THREAT of having guns kept away from criminals, druggies, and nut jobs?

Oh, I get it. Bush was white so refusing to go along with the Patriot Act wasn't even a thought they would entertain. Even though the Patriot Act took more of our civil liberties away than Obamas tweaking of the gun laws will!


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Stony, for someone who touts themselves an environmentalist, you sure cant see the forest for the trees. You are the perfect pawn to endlessly argue your party's line, but you cant see that thats how they keep you (and a few others) distracted. Patrick Henry said, "United we stand, divided we fall", back in 1799, and its as true today as it ever was.

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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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Meanwhile, I signed the petition supporting Bill 357. Because whining on web blogs is one thing, but calling, writing and petitioning is action. This bill is again about State's Rights. As Stony points out, we have not been able to just opt out of Federal legislation. We tried that in the 1800's and it resulted in the War of Northern Aggression in which the states lost their rights when defeated. Then later during segregation, the Governor of Alabama stood on the State University steps while Federal troops were sent to arrest or subdue the State Militia. It was quite the stand off. And we lost State's rights again.

Now it appears that some states are willing to band together again. Several states have proposed this legislation to abolish Federal restrictions on the original intention of the U.S. Constitution 2nd amendment. Further, many of those states have their own State Constitutional amendment that has served to reinforce the original freedom. So, if the Fed passes laws negating State's Constitutions, we will see how strong our Governors are and how committed our Sheriffs are.

Many of those states are the same that exceded the 25000 signature petition level to secede from the U.S. No relief action was granted to any of the states for peaceful secession. Now, it appears if we pass this bill, perhaps secession may not be so peaceful.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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Stony wrote:
But a state deciding it don't like all the rules .... THAT won't work. The first, most obvious thing the fed can do is cut off all federal dollars to that state. That alone would ruin Pa.

Stony, you miss the part about all the state money and individual money that wouldn't go to the federal government. More is paid into the federal government than is paid back. It would be a win for PA.

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Let me ask a serious question? Where were these loons when BUSH took our liberties away with the Patriot Act? Weren't those liberties just as important to them as the THREAT of having guns kept away from criminals, druggies, and nut jobs?
The same place you must have been, hiding from the truth about the Patriot Act. Still waiting on the serious question.

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Oh, I get it. Bush was white so refusing to go along with the Patriot Act wasn't even a thought they would entertain. Even though the Patriot Act took more of our civil liberties away than Obamas tweaking of the gun laws will!
Not to mention the expansion of the Patriot Act under obama and the democratically controlled house & senate at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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NOBODY will take this guy's guns haha. Bill Stevens, a father of a 5th grader who was not killed or injured in the Sandy Hook shooting, telling it like it is, slamming his fist down on the table as he finishes, and walking out …like a boss

[youtube]http://youtu.be/dhXPlCjr0Vw[/youtube]

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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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NOBODY will take this guy's guns haha. Bill Stevens, a father of a 5th grader who was not killed or injured in the Sandy Hook shooting, telling it like it is, slamming his fist down on the table as he finishes, and walking out …like a boss

[youtube]http://youtu.be/dhXPlCjr0Vw[/youtube]

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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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Side note: Suggested video after the father is for stony.



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 Post subject: Re: Dont have to worry about the feds taking guns, states wi
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Flash, I'm on board with the whole chemtrail thing.



Here in Pa, I believe they are dumping fracking fluids on us!


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