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 Post subject: Re: OMG! The END OF AMERICA!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:28 pm 
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"They" aren't planning to take your guns. "They" just insist that you are registered and get a background check. Additionally, if you need an assault weapon or submachine gun to hunt then you should endeavor to become a better shot or take up knitting.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:43 pm 
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Why would we want an exemption for law enforcement for the NYS AWB? NYS law enforcement was already required to comply with the 10 round restriction already in effect. Police are citizens too. They are not some special exempt class, nor should they be. If NY legislature really felt that to properly defend oneself that more than 7 rounds are required, they would have allowed for that. Obviously, we can expect a highly trained and certified police officer to be a much better shot and much more able to defend themselves with the legally allowed number of cartridges. Either 7 is enough or it isn't.

Personally, I don't think it would be possible to have too many rounds available in a magazine in the horrific instance of suddenly finding I have to defend myself with a firearm. But apparently NYS feels that is not needed.

And as for coming for your guns, oh yeah, I remember now, they just want folks to register them. What a great idea. Why didn't anyone ever think of that before? I wonder if any country has ever done that and how it worked out? Let me go do a little reading on that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:49 pm 
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And WTF does hunting have to do with anything Mr Irrelevant?


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Some people can't/won't even read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. They just buy the narrative the leftist media spits out without thinking for themselves. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. It has everything to do with the citizen having the right to protect himself against any and all oppression, including that of a repressive government that seeks to make subjects out of citizens. The false 'limitations' that are sought are, on their face, a violation of this right. The amendment says "....the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Infringe-to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another. To trespass on on a right or privilege.
Passing a law that curtails this right in any way is an infringement and, therefore, violates the second amendment.
Were the administration so concerned about gun violence, they might start with a little more transparency about "Fast and Furious"......just sayin :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:06 am 
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Mr. Irrelevant AKA Mr. Morrison from BAHS? Since police are called only to deal with threats that "other" civilians are first dealing with, (Police are still civilians) logic would dictate that what they need to protect themselves from said threat should be exactly what the person calling (first responder/victim) needs.

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It's NOT that "they" are going to take "our" guns, it's that "they" have made it illegal for our children to purchase those guns. Bleeting idiocy argument that the bleeting control freaks continually push.

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Remember police are SECOND RESPONDERS. We must face reality. WE are our first responders. Police come to gather evidence, draw white outlines around bodies, take pictures and arrest any remaining persons and sort out suspects later.

So if the second responder has to show up armed with some level of force to deal with a situation that may have already been dealt with, why would not the first repsonder (the person being attacked) want to have equal or greater capability?


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morrison1 wrote:
"They" aren't planning to take your guns. "They" just insist that you are registered and get a background check. Additionally, if you need an assault weapon or submachine gun to hunt then you should endeavor to become a better shot or take up knitting.

what line of the second amendment says anything about hunting?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:32 pm 
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zenrider wrote:
Remember police are SECOND RESPONDERS. We must face reality. WE are our first responders. Police come to gather evidence, draw white outlines around bodies, take pictures and arrest any remaining persons and sort out suspects later.

So if the second responder has to show up armed with some level of force to deal with a situation that may have already been dealt with, why would not the first repsonder (the person being attacked) want to have equal or greater capability?


In many cases the police aren't even the 2nd or 3rd responders. Often when an incident is witnessed by an armed citizen they intervene.

Keep in mind, the weapons used at Sandy Hook were stolen, not legally obtained.


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 Post subject: Re: OMG! The END OF AMERICA!
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What are you smoking? Or are just deliberately misstating the facts? The weapons were owned by his mother who bought them legally. Not exactly stolen when you get it in your own house.


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What isn't clear about Sandy Hook is exactly how those were obtained. So far, only the contractors that worked at the house testified that the firearms were locked in some form of safe. Nothing has been said if Adam tortured his mother to get a key. Maybe he observed or obtained a combination through deception. Maybe just force entry. Don't forget, this is a psycho that was also known to be somewhat of a genius. If it had an electronic lock, he may have hacked it. If a simple dial combination and you spent 99.999% of your life as a recluse in the home, you might have time to just keep trying combinations until you get it right. And if you are a smart geek, you know that folks usually use numbers that are easier for them to remember and associate. So you usually have some higher probability combinations.

What is not at all clear, but often stated, is that the guns were just laying around. There is no evidence of that. And if they were then shame on her, but that doesn't mean everyone else loses because of her.


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If Adam stole his mother's guns and car and took them to the school as ALL news outlets were reporting, then why did the car he drive come back to a Christopher Rodia of Florida? Even stranger, if he HAD originally taken her car to the school, he must have taken it back to her house :lol: because her BMW was in the driveway.

"THEY" are playing you idiots like a damn violin.

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