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 Post subject: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:41 pm 
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OMG! I was away for the weekend and when I got back I read that horrible story about that poor guy who burnt himself to death filling his lighter.

What a horrible way to die! Can you imagine yourself igniting and burning so bad you die from your burns?

Wouldn't it be better, and safer to just use disposable lighters? Easier, cheaper, much more convenient and now a matter of life and death?

No, I don't own stock in BIC, nor do I work for them, but I am an owner and now a proponent of their disposable lighters!

Why buy a lighter you have to constantly worry about it's wick, the fluid and the flint when you can buy a disposable lighter that you can just throw away?

One that won't be risking your life filling way too often, with very dangerous fluid?

I'll use a BIC, thank you very much, because burning to death is not how I want to die!

That poor man! Surely he should have seen that coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:04 pm 
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Sounds like a Darwin award to me. You've got to know the stuff is flammable when you're filling a lighter with it. The 499,999,999 other zippo users didn't have this problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:16 pm 
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Cornfunkel wrote:
Sounds like a Darwin award to me.


Hope none of his family or friends read this!


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The 499,999,999 other zippo users didn't have this problem.


First, who said anything about this being a Zippo?

Second, "The 499,999,999 other zippo users didn't have this problem"...... that we know of. Could be there were many other episodes like this that just aren't reported as such.

Third, "The 499,999,999 other zippo users didn't have this problem" ....... YET!


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:29 pm 
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The Bradford Era said it was a zippo.

Do you feel sorry for every Darwin award nominee and their family, or just the ones that accidentally kill themselves using a product made in the town that they and you live in?


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:36 am 
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Cornfunkel wrote:
The Bradford Era said it was a zippo.

Do you feel sorry for every Darwin award nominee and their family, or just the ones that accidentally kill themselves using a product made in the town that they and you live in?


Sorry, I didn't read the Era. And besides, everything that appears in the Era *may or may not be true*! LOL!

And I am not defending Zippo! Quite the contrary! They may be producing lighters that require a possibly *life threatening* procedure to fill them!

In THIS CASE it certainly was!

Perhaps they need to print a warning on the lighter or the lighter fluid that says: "if you spill lighter fluid on yourself or others while filling the lighter, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO LIGHT THE LIGHTER BEFORE CHANGING CLOTHES AND SHOWER AND/OR BATHE".


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Taking Stony's oft given advice, I Googled "accidents with disposable lighters" and came up with a cut and paste of info:


THE SAFETY ISSUE

While their lighters were selling like hotcakes, BIC was secretly accumulating a pile of lawsuits. The New York Times found out about this and in 1987 published an article revealing that BIC had settled more than 20 cases in which their lighters had leaked, exploded, failed, ignited while lying on overheated dashboards, or otherwise malfunctioned and injured somebody.
The company issued denials, stonewalled, hedged, etc. Their stock price plunged 25%. After a week during which all sorts of rumors swirled about the things their BIC lighters had got up to, BIC finally caved and admitted that, yes, they had settled lawsuits, and that in fact, they had an additional 42 lawsuits pending. And yes, it was true, a woman had died in an accident involving a BIC lighter.
But, BIC said, most of those accidents happened because the customer used the lighters incorrectly--not BIC's fault. And the model of lighter that killed that woman had been discontinued. Not to worry, they said. And it worked. Soon BIC's stock price started to go back up again.
But the issue of safety didn't go away. And here is where the disposable lighter-road diverges into two paths: one path that safety advocates take, and one taken by smokers who like their lighters to have some guts.
BIC kept getting sued over incidents in which their lighters had severely injured children, exploded when dropped, etc. Lawyers for BIC argued that the children had clearly been left unsupervised--not BIC's fault, in other words. BIC said that out of 50 such lawsuits, they lost only 3, and two of them were later reversed.


THE STATISTICS

About 1 billion lighters are sold in the US each year.
For every million lighters sold, one person gets injured.
About 3 million lighters are sold per day.
This means three people are injured each day from disposable lighters.
One person dies each year due to accidents with disposable lighters.
In 1993, the Consumer Product Safety Commission estimated that 97% of the house fires that happened in the US that year were caused by disposable lighters.

if you must buy lighters, please don't buy the disposable ones.! Go for the Zippo! Or if you don't want to spend that extra money on keeping your nose from getting burned off and you still must have the disposable variety, then be sure to choose one that does have the extra safety features on it.


Notice how the Zippo lighter has a lid that snaps closed. This ensures that the flame will be put out for certain, thereby reducing the likelihood of the majority of the accidents described above. The fact that Zippos are made of metal and thus won't melt or develop punctures is another key feature.
(Photo from automotive.com)
http://dailyapple.blogspot.com/2009/08/apple-405-disposable-lighters.html


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:14 pm 
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Evolution on display. Too stupid to fill a lighter, too stupid to be allowed to breed.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
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Ultimately adult human beings are responsible for the actions they take and their consequences. We don't need a nanny state taking care of us.
Zippo lighters do have warnings permanently stamped on the inside that tell you to wipe the lighter and your hands off after filling them.
But, speaking of Darwin awards I also nominate every single person who smokes, whether they've been killed by it yet or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:56 am 
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How can you live in bradford and putdown ZIPPO lighters they are why this city is still here, without them or Case we are done. If you must then move.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
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I have to agree with C5 on this one. I think both places pay pretty well and have decent benefits. I think they also give a lot back to the community and could easily ship these local jobs somewhere else for less. Stonys analogy reminds me of gun control advocates. (who are also way off base)

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 Post subject: Re: Lighter Fluid can kill!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:35 pm 
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Cornfunkel wrote:
Ultimately adult human beings are responsible for the actions they take and their consequences. We don't need a nanny state taking care of us.
Zippo lighters do have warnings permanently stamped on the inside that tell you to wipe the lighter and your hands off after filling them.
But, speaking of Darwin awards I also nominate every single person who smokes, whether they've been killed by it yet or not.


Exactly.


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