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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:46 pm 
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I got another today this one trashing the affordable care act. Saying it cost PA jobs, how? Also, stony we'll talk shop soon.

With double the health care costs and double the overhead, you have to let some employees go because you can't afford their insurance.

You got it right, Jeff, just who the hell do those low life employees think they are to even consider themselves worthy enough to have access to reasonable health care. Companies need to be able to grow and they surely can't help shorten the unemployment lines if they can't hire new people. Romney also has it right, like he said, all those people who do not have health insurance already have 24/7 access to emergency rooms, what more to they need?

Yeah, good one, because that's exactly what I was implying *eye roll*.
It has nothing to do with employers not wanting to provide it. Apparently you cannot do simple math so grab a calculator.

Generic Factory has 400 employees. Generic Factory was paying for their healthcare at 2000 a year per employee or $800,000. The cost of fully covering an employee after Obamacare is now 4000, or $1,600,000. Generic Factory now has double the overhead on employees. Economic hardships have already forced Generic Factory and companies nationwide to lay off massive amounts of workers. Now, they have to lay off more because of the added expense.

Simple math Bernard. Since simple is only your title, and not your strong suit, look up the statistics on the average health cost increase.

Oh, and just in case I haven't made this simple enough, all of those employees that were let go because the company could not afford healthcare, well now instead of having the healthcare that their employer provided before obamacare, now they have NONE and it's thanks to Obama's policies and the blind following by sheep such as yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:10 am 
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JeffT wrote:
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JeffT wrote:
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I got another today this one trashing the affordable care act. Saying it cost PA jobs, how? Also, stony we'll talk shop soon.

With double the health care costs and double the overhead, you have to let some employees go because you can't afford their insurance.

You got it right, Jeff, just who the hell do those low life employees think they are to even consider themselves worthy enough to have access to reasonable health care. Companies need to be able to grow and they surely can't help shorten the unemployment lines if they can't hire new people. Romney also has it right, like he said, all those people who do not have health insurance already have 24/7 access to emergency rooms, what more to they need?

Yeah, good one, because that's exactly what I was implying *eye roll*.
It has nothing to do with employers not wanting to provide it. Apparently you cannot do simple math so grab a calculator.

Generic Factory has 400 employees. Generic Factory was paying for their healthcare at 2000 a year per employee or $800,000. The cost of fully covering an employee after Obamacare is now 4000, or $1,600,000. Generic Factory now has double the overhead on employees. Economic hardships have already forced Generic Factory and companies nationwide to lay off massive amounts of workers. Now, they have to lay off more because of the added expense.

Simple math Bernard. Since simple is only your title, and not your strong suit, look up the statistics on the average health cost increase.

Oh, and just in case I haven't made this simple enough, all of those employees that were let go because the company could not afford healthcare, well now instead of having the healthcare that their employer provided before obamacare, now they have NONE and it's thanks to Obama's policies and the blind following by sheep such as yourself.


How about instead of flooding the thread with a bunch of *generic* made up stats based on a *generic* made up company, you provide actual real life information gleaned from real life companies to back up your *made up* catastrophic health insurance cost increase. Tea?


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:29 am 
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In other words, please illustrate your illustration because I still can't see what I don't want to see. It doesn't fit my paradigm........ :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/u ... script.pdf

From the oversight committee themselves Bernard!

In some cases it's actually cheaper for the companies to drop coverage completely and pay the penalty.


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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JeffT wrote:
http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/7-28-11-Subcommittee-on-Health-Care-District-of-Columbia-Census-and-the-National-Archives-Hearing-Transcript.pdf

From the oversight committee themselves Bernard!

That is a bogus document, there is no such thing as Obamacare.


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Even when faced with facts....


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Note the "maturity" level of his responses...... :roll: What did you expect?

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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Note the "maturity" level of his responses...... :roll: What did you expect?

Yes, with all *due* respect.


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Republicans all over including the gasbags on TV are questioning Romney's chances of winning based on his terrible campaign that looks more like a campaign to be head clown at the Circus.

This Virginia guy was so sure Romney would lose, he did the unthinkable. He probably came to this conclusion after hearing the Republican gasbags on TV admitting he has no chance of winning.

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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Hope you were watching the debate, you were looking at the new President.


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 Post subject: Re: Romney voters!
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Seems that none of them have anything to say about their boy now that the first debate is over. I haven't seen anyone stuttering and rambling as bad as Obama was since I was a bartender.


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