I know so many "liberals" that are pro-abortion, and anti death penalty at the same time! Why, the pro-abortionists don't even like the word "abortion", so they hide behind "Pro-CHOICE!
Shadow, I've been a liberal probably longer than you have been alive and I've NEVER met a liberal who was "PRO-abortion"! I seriously believe there is anybody who would call themselves "pro-abortionists". You just have quite an odd circle of friends!
It would be saying because someone once got at root-canal they were "pro-root-canal".
I can't believe ANYBODY WANTS to get an abortion.
Fighting for the right to terminate an early pregnancy don't mean you are in favor of abortions.
This is something one must decide on a personal basis. If you know somebody or several people who ENJOY getting abortions, I suggest you make new friends!
All of the liberals I know hate the idea of abortions just as much as anybody ... BUT they respect the rights of those who feel an abortion is necessary.
Splitting hairs? Either you are for abortion, aka pro-choice, or you are against it, aka pro-life. Did you see the under cover piece about a woman pretending to be pregnant with her 4th child, saying she had all girls, and wondered if she could abort if the fetus was female? Her Family planning counsiler said "Yes, that is fine!' If that isn't PRO-abortion, I don't know what is. BTW, I still think it should be legal. But legal and moral are two different things, eh?
And BTW Stony, I've had 3 root canals. One from the side where they cut open my gum to get to the root, then stitched it back up. OUCH! So yes, I am Pro-root canal! I'll do anything to save my natural teeth!
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:28 pm
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You are right JeffT! The only people who should be forced to adopt are those who want to force woman to bear children for whatever reason they don't want to or can't provide for.
Ok, I will note that your stance on this issue is that if I tie a woman up, impregnate her, and then keep her tied up until she bears the child that I should adopt the child.
Personally, I want to force MEN AND WOMEN to be responsible for their own actions. If a man and a woman have sex and neither are using any form of birth control then they should be responsible for their own reckless actions. I pay enough through taking my wife to dinner, buying her gifts, paying bills, paying for the needs of my children etc., for my own sex that I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's sex.
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:36 am
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tigereye wrote:
Stony wrote:
You are right JeffT! The only people who should be forced to adopt are those who want to force woman to bear children for whatever reason they don't want to or can't provide for.
Exactly WHO would that be? I'm not aware that ANYONE would "force a woman to bear children". Most of us just expect a little personal responsibility of those who negligently conceive and then expect the rest of us to pay for their "mistakes", either to murder their child against ourconsciences, or to endlessly support their children AND their poor choices in personal behavior.
Your conscience is your concern, as are your whims. You live with your own and I will live with mine.
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:24 pm
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I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
_________________ "Political correctness is tyranny with manners."----Charlton Heston
I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
Amen to that. Let them pay for their own murder. Why can a woman be charged with murder for throwing her newborn in a dumpster, but a month earlier can legally murder her child with my tax dollars, and society's blessing?
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:48 pm
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Shadow wrote:
tigereye wrote:
I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
Amen to that. Let them pay for their own murder. Why can a woman be charged with murder for throwing her newborn in a dumpster, but a month earlier can legally murder her child with my tax dollars, and society's blessing?
I'm not saying that there is any exageration in the above posts but as an atheist I am personally against my tax dollars being used to help finance the construction of all the fancy ornate churches across the nation.
I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
Amen to that. Let them pay for their own murder. Why can a woman be charged with murder for throwing her newborn in a dumpster, but a month earlier can legally murder her child with my tax dollars, and society's blessing?
I'm not saying that there is any exageration in the above posts but as an atheist I am personally against my tax dollars being used to help finance the construction of all the fancy ornate churches across the nation.
Other than churches being tax exempt, what tax dollars are being used to construct fancy ornate churches? Hey! I don't want to pay for my neighbor's colonoscopy, (he should have prevented it by a diet of nuts and berries instead of steak and white bread) but I guess when you live in a SOCIETY, you have to do things for the greater good, whether you agree with each individual thing or not. Like I said before...just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:38 pm
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Shadow wrote:
Bernie wrote:
Shadow wrote:
tigereye wrote:
I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
Amen to that. Let them pay for their own murder. Why can a woman be charged with murder for throwing her newborn in a dumpster, but a month earlier can legally murder her child with my tax dollars, and society's blessing?
I'm not saying that there is any exageration in the above posts but as an atheist I am personally against my tax dollars being used to help finance the construction of all the fancy ornate churches across the nation.
Other than churches being tax exempt, what tax dollars are being used to construct fancy ornate churches? Hey! I don't want to pay for my neighbor's colonoscopy, (he should have prevented it by a diet of nuts and berries instead of steak and white bread) but I guess when you live in a SOCIETY, you have to do things for the greater good, whether you agree with each individual thing or not. Like I said before...just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
Post subject: Re: How sick some Republicans really are!
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:06 pm
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Bernie wrote:
Shadow wrote:
Bernie wrote:
Shadow wrote:
tigereye wrote:
I DO live with my conscience. That's why I object to being forced to pay for the murder of children through my taxes. As for those who think murder of the innocents is acceptable.......THOSE are the ones who need to question THEIR consciences, assuming they HAVE them. I'm all for live and let live. THEY want to live and let others die to accommodate their 'lifestyle'.
Amen to that. Let them pay for their own murder. Why can a woman be charged with murder for throwing her newborn in a dumpster, but a month earlier can legally murder her child with my tax dollars, and society's blessing?
I'm not saying that there is any exageration in the above posts but as an atheist I am personally against my tax dollars being used to help finance the construction of all the fancy ornate churches across the nation.
Other than churches being tax exempt, what tax dollars are being used to construct fancy ornate churches? Hey! I don't want to pay for my neighbor's colonoscopy, (he should have prevented it by a diet of nuts and berries instead of steak and white bread) but I guess when you live in a SOCIETY, you have to do things for the greater good, whether you agree with each individual thing or not. Like I said before...just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
For your point to be right wouldn't churches have to be built using federal dollars?
Why does religion get brought into the abortion debate, and always by those who support abortion? I didn't see where shadow or tigereye brought religion into it. Maybe I missed it, but maybe, just maybe, people can think murder is wrong without it being based on a religious belief.
Homeless people everywhere, soldiers not getting the benefits they were promised for serving our country, budget shortfalls across the nation, deteriorating and collapsing infrastructure, QE3 starting, but people are still worried about having irresponsible unprotected sex and demanding tax dollars get funneled to themselves to pay for it.
Anyone else find it funny that the liberals are babbling about keeping the government out of their bodies (regarding laws on abortions) but then want the government to pay for what goes on in their bodies?
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