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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:00 pm 
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http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/04/20/6501660-your-iphone-is-secretly-tracking-you-all-the-time?chromedomain=technolog

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/04/21/iphone.tracker.explainer/index.html?hpt=C1

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/04/21/senator.apple.tracking.ars/index.html?hpt=Sbin

http://www.webpronews.com/iphone-tracking-your-movements-2011-04


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This is why i dont own a cell phone of any type.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:38 am 
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Android phones do the same thing and it states right in the permissions for each app that they do that. They use your location for certain apps. For instance you open a browser. Google will give you search results specific to the location you are in. There are tons of apps that utilize the GPS features of phones.


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This is why i dont own a cell phone of any type.


Well, that's good to learn. i just thought it was because you were cheap and nobody would call you anyway! LOL!!!


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That too!

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This is why i dont own a cell phone of any type.

Sorry to say Citizen then you should also quit using the Internet, because the ISP you use tracks everywhere you go online. The government can subpoena that if needed. Also if you have your iPhone Jailbroken (I do) there is an App to install from Cydia to erase that tracking.


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Sorry to say Citizen then you should also quit using the Internet, because the ISP you use tracks everywhere you go online.



Apples to oranges MM. He can leave his home computer on all day long and it don't know where he goes during the day. And he don't need to hack anything or use any app to stay untraceable.

Here's my trick that don't use an Apple app. My cell phone stays off until I want to use it to make a call. And most of the time I don't make any calls ........ Most of my movements are undetectable!


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Hey Musicman, Im not sure how to break this to you...when you visit different sites on the internet, you dont actually go anywhere. :lol:

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Do you drive a car that has a built in GPS such as OnStar? They can be used to track you also.


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Sorry to say Citizen then you should also quit using the Internet, because the ISP you use tracks everywhere you go online.



Apples to oranges MM. He can leave his home computer on all day long and it don't know where he goes during the day. And he don't need to hack anything or use any app to stay untraceable.

Here's my trick that don't use an Apple app. My cell phone stays off until I want to use it to make a call. And most of the time I don't make any calls ........ Most of my movements are undetectable!

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Hey Musicman, Im not sure how to break this to you...when you visit different sites on the internet, you dont actually go anywhere. :lol:


If you both cleaned off your non-apple devices and read what I wrote you would see I said where you go online, not where you actually walk to or drive or bike to during the day or night. I guess I should of worded it a little better. When you go and visit your favorite porn site, the company you pay your money to every month that gives you internet access keeps a log of every site visited. This is tracked to your IP address of your computer or router (depending on how you are hooked up to the internet). I am saying if you are all up in arms about a cell phone you all have been being tracked all along online. Now if for whatever reason you get in trouble with the police they can subpoena your internet service provider for the records of your IP address. There are ways around that but I will not go into detail on that.


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Seeing that this is such an interesting topic, I did a little research:

[quote]Technical details aside, your cell phone can be remotely powered on and off without either your consent or your knowledge. This includes any tracking functions, such as GPS or just using normal cell tower ping triangulation, and even features like direct microphone feeds for any ongoing conversations (known as a “roving bug.”)
Of course, this can't be done for any great length of time, as the cell phone battery will need to be recharged eventually, which puts something of a limit on it.
Cell phone companies, of course, have complete access to your phone and its functions. While the company can't legally just look into your location on a whim, employers do have this power and abuses are always, always possible. A somewhat recent example of some non-tracking abuse is Verizon employees poking into Barack Obama's phone records.
Warrantless cell phone tracking has been a part of the US government as long as there have been cell phones, and cell phone companies are forced by law to hand over any amount of control over these cell phones as either the state or federal government desires. This is for certain once the authorites have a good case for probable cause, and somewhat more borderline if they haven't gone ahead and gotten a proper warrant. This includes location data for tracking purposes. There is a possibility that the FBI does such tracking independently of the phone company, but this is rather difficult to verify.
As you might imagine, this can constitute a major breach of ethical protocol. Gathering such intimate information as location without either knowledge or consent is a major privacy violation. Particular to the United States is a potential 4th Amendment of the Constitution violation against unreasonable search and seizure.
These techniques are largely used with good intentions. For instance, that “roving bug” concept, remotely turning on the microphone of the cell phone to listen in on conversations, is largely used on suspects who are otherwise impossible to track.
Scary. So, how do you avoid being tracked in this manner?
The only real way is to remove the batteries of the cell phone. This renders the cell phone completely useless. However, without power, there is nothing that anyone can do to get any of the functions of the camera up and running.
A few people have gone ahead and created those lead lined bags to keep any signals from entering and leaving the phone, but that's probably a bit of a paranoia stretch for most people.
Of course, neither of these exactly render your cell phone especially useful. The point of a cell phone is to be able to make and receive calls, and you can't do that when the power's off.
So, you're out of luck. Sit back, relax, and hope nobody's watching.
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Wow, great post, talk about big brother, well, gotta sign off now, some of my lead shingles came loose in that last storm...

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