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 Post subject: Re: Mitt Romney: Vampire!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Wow that's gonna run us into the poor house isn't it? How much is that really going to cost you??? Come on? Screw the little kids, huh? they can just get sick and die right? They don't need the government helping them stay alive with special programs if it's going to cost us all money!
Didn't take you long to go for the fear factor and accusing me of wanting little kids to die. I have stated over and over again that I am FOR programs that are needed. I am AGAINST wasteful spending. We have a spending problem in our government and could easily afford the needed programs if spending was cut. We cannot afford both the debt and the programs by increasing taxes.

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Hey confidentially, I don't give a rats ass about tobacco tax- I gave that obnoxious habit up. You know I bet you can't even afford a pack with all these high taxes.
Congrats on quiting. Affording the cigarettes isn't the problem, it is funding programs not related to health, healthcare, anti-smoking, etc. with taxes levied on cigarettes. Fact - most states failed to implement the programs promised to be paid for by the cigarette lawsuits and are now required to pay back to the cigarette manufacturers the money paid in the settlement. They are doing this by raising taxes.

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I think your way off base, We are paying the lowest in taxes in proportion tho the 1950's, trouble is you are just like the rest of your type in hating taxes but loving to drive on the roads, visit parks,have convenient government offices and services at your command, but you don't want to pay for them.You know a lot of taxes you spoke of haven't even take effect, How far in the future have you lost money in taxes?
Our tax burden is the highest it has ever been, by far. Our return is the lowest it has ever been, by far. I love driving on roads. That is what fuel taxes are for. I love going to parks. Alleghany is the ONLY one that makes money and doesn't need supported by tax payers. Convenient government offices? I haven't had to go to one in years. Driver's license? On-line. Fishing license? On-line. Building permits? On-line. We don't need 75% of the government offices out there. Taxing our way out of this mess hurts individuals, businesses, this country. It will only lead to more spending that we cannot afford. Government spending needs ot be curtailed to levels sustainable by taxes at lower rates, on everything, than they are now. Spending more money than we have is stupidity of the lowest form.


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 Post subject: Re: Mitt Romney: Vampire!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:24 pm 
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On February 4, 2009, the Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 was signed into law, which raised the federal tax rate for cigarettes on April 1, 2009 from $0.39 per pack to $1.01 per pack


Boo Hoo. And I'm a smoker. Pay for your vices. But, of course, you guys just have to pop on over to Limestone to get Indian cigs at one- third the price of name brands.

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This new ObamaCare bargain would for the first time apply the 2.9% Medicare payroll tax to "interest, dividends, annuities, royalties and rents," so-called passive income that we are told includes capital gains, though the latter wasn't explicitly mentioned in the proposal.


So what? The wealthy don't get their money from working, they get it from investment income! So when people bitch that the rich don't pay their fair share, this is a perfect example. Most 99%ers don't make enough money from these sources for it to matter.

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This antigrowth investment tax would apply to singles earning more than $200,000 and joint filers over $250,000 and comes on top of the Senate's 0.9-percentage-point increase in the payroll tax, which would bring the combined employee-employer share to 3.8%.


"Antigrowth" claims are BS. We've tried trickle down, twice, it doesn't work. And Anyone making $200,000 to $250,000 is mostly likely working for their money, and their investment income is not a major factor in their general income.

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The rate hike on investment income would presumably take effect at the same time the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts are due to expire next year, bringing the top rate to 22.9% as the current top capital gains rate would also rise to 20% from 15%.


Capital gains claimed by 99%ers are usually the sale of a house, which most of us don't do every year! The 1%ers toss sales of real estate and investments back and forth like badminton birdies. That's their main income, why should it be taxed a a lower rate than income tax?

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That's a 52% jump, and the last time investors were slammed with anything comparable was 1986 when the capital gains rate bounced to 28% from 20%—or a 40% increase—as part of the Reagan tax reform that reduced income tax rates.


Don't get where you think that's a 52% jump.

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Starting in 2013, high earners -- defined as households making make more than $250,000 or single people making more than $200,000 -- will see their Medicare payroll taxes increase 0.9 percentage points, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.


That's less than one-percent. Give me a break.

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Raise $143 billion over the next decade by increasing estate and gift taxes, and changing the way some trusts are taxed. (this one hurts my 13 year old niece by taxing money that has already been taxed.)


If rich people didn't abuse estate and gift loopholes, it wouldn't be a problem. I agree that estates shouldn't be taxed, but only for people under a certain income and small family business.

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Every proposal coming out of the democratic controlled senate and the white house has some form of tax increase in it.

And that's because Bush made a major mistake with his tax cuts in the early 2000s. THAT's why we're suffering today, taxes weren't allowed to take their natural increases.


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 Post subject: Re: Mitt Romney: Vampire!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:29 pm 
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I got it on good word that Mitt Romney is a Vampire. It is said he loves to suck your blood, and money. So I heard. I guess that is how he got rich.


I don't think he's a Vampire, I think he's the Anti-Christ. He's just too darn good looking.


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 Post subject: Re: Mitt Romney: Vampire!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:14 pm 
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Phillygirl wrote:
Neo wrote:
I got it on good word that Mitt Romney is a Vampire. It is said he loves to suck your blood, and money. So I heard. I guess that is how he got rich.


I don't think he's a Vampire, I think he's the Anti-Christ. He's just too darn good looking.


Philly, you have to be out of your mind, did you see that photo I posted? Looks like a vamp to me. Even their horse has an ancient vampire name "Rafalca". By the way, here is one of Ann that was exposed by a major media outlet:


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