In resonse to BT Regular calling my defense of the Obama administration all lies I stand by my original claims-first on Mitt

Romney and Bain capital the site you posted showing my ignorance of how business operates, but you showed your

ignorance by not reading the full "Gindrich "Bain bomb'fizzles" item you used as a point as it was criticizing a campaign

ad making some errors on some bankruptcies when Mitt Romney came to town. At the bottom of the page it states by

the author "To be clear none of this suggests that Romney and Bain didn't make mistakes or that they shouldn't be

criticized for situations in which they profited from financial engineering rather than company growth.This artcle you

posted was not a liberal viewpoint but about distortion of facts on a documentary Gindrich-Affiliated winning our future

PAC'.
Secondly, If you go to http://www.factcheck.org/2010/did-the-s ... reate-jobs you can see another side of the

coin. One dramatic cause of unemployment were jobs lost in the state and federal sector that quickly negated many

gains in the private sector during that time period.I find it absolutely amazing how Republicans seem to forget just how

bad the country was and the world after the banks fell due to the housing bubble debacle which the Bush

Administration failed to react to the oncoming crash.
Thirdly my point on the domestic oil production was to show that despite all oil drilling going on, whether it be

privately held land or not, Obama should not be blamed for the skyrocketing gas prices at the pump. Oil compamies are

making tremendous profits right now due to speculators. Oil specultion is what is really driving the marketprice as

purchasers of oil futures turn around and sell them for nflated prices making huge profits. If you check out

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertienzn ... -should-be 60-70-a-barrel/ you

would find that 6 of the most powerful CEOs all agreed with Rex Tillerson's comments concerning the high price of oil

due to futures contracts and high frequency trading. Check out http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-fox-ne ... as-prices/ You find Bill O'Reilly staunchly defending Bush for this same matter in 2008

defends George Bush in not taking the blame game for this same issue.
Fourth I don't care what you say I saw Preident Obama sharply refused when he called
John Boener and Mitch MCconnell and others to discuss their imput concerning their ideas on this bill. Did you see any

CSPAN video of Republicans being refused to interject ideas. All I saw was their constant "kill the bill" refrains.

Furthermore if you check out http:/prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/would-tort-reform-lower-health-care-

costs/ and
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-k ... state.html you would find that the two

items I stated that were so called suggestion weren't even that significant to begin with. I would also say that the link you

stated-Kaiserhealth news etc. was talking about a Republican sponsered bill that as I recall only presented because the

Clinton Administration were pushing for health care reform in the first place. I do want to thank you for the information

on that link because ironically enough, it also states that the "Health Equity and Access Reform Act of 1993(that

republican idea you were talking about) bears similarity to the Patient protection and Affordable Care Act passed 12-24

-2009--I guess practically the same bill was good only if it was republican sponsored!
Fifth, your claim that Obama didn't get Bin Laden, I know he wasn't part of the commnado squad, don't be

ridiculous, but the fact remains that this operation was in the working for eight months. Intelligence sources did know

that Bin Laden was chased between Afghanistan and Pakistan for nearly a decade coming close to capture in Tora Bora

and losing him,I think as history recalls the Bush Administration had give up at this point and declared some sort of

victory. The real breakthrough was when The Obama administration received information from Khalid Shaikh on Bin

Laden's location. Bin Laden was captured in Pakistan by the way, not Afghanistan. I'm not even going to post a link for

any of this as you can find that information about anywhere, except maybe in Dick cheney's library. The go ahead was

given by President Obama not Bush or whoever you think these "Republicans"were. You right wingers are something

else!You know very well that if this mission would have failed it would have had Obama's name all over it. I recall to name

a few as Carter's "failed mission" in Iran Operation Eagle Claw. Republicans couldn't forget that. Or when the B2 stealth

bomber was shot down by Serbians in "Operation Allied Force" in Serbia during the Clinton administration. Why do you

think after 20 yrs being registered as a Republican that I changed my affilliation. Republicans are nothing but a bunch of

hypocrites.
Lastly as far as what I said of trusting Obama on the Medicare/Medicade issue, I will stand by what I said as The Ryan

Plan which had full republican support is a far cry from what I would think of as a fair masterful piece of legislation. If you

think states should appropriate money so seniors can use a voucher system to buy insurance from the private sector I

think you should look at what present Health insurance companies have done to hold premiums down in the last 30

years I don't no about you but my health Insurance has mushroomed in cost since I first entered the work force where

quality has gone down.You can't blame the affordable Care Act for that! As long as we have Tea Party Republicans who

will not compromise on anything, I don't see where any of this problem will be rectified.
I understand fully well the length of time the present system can sustain itself.

Edit: You're too ignorant to even bother with anymore. Your post above proves it in almost every sentence.

From one ignoramus to another then, and whether Bain Capitol and Mitt Romney are together now or not wasn't my original point. My point in singling him out is he would have left the automobile industry go bankrupt if it had been him and Bain Capital his company that he originally was part founder would have gutted the company and stolen the workers pension fund from them. Not particularly Bain but companies like them and if you think that's easy for someone starting retirement to handle well just be glad it's someone else's' right? As far as the rest of what I wrote it wasn't the finished "product" I wanted but I spoke what I felt was the truth. The finished version was what I spoke of that I typed, scanned over for errors, and after spending 3 hours making sure I thought it was right when I posted it I lost everything. What you saw was a "rough cut" that I typed out in note pad that I copied and pasted.

And why shouldn't the auto industry have gone bankrupt (in fact one did)? The big three have done an absolutely terrible job at keeping up with technology, they have 'caught up, by adding more distractions to drivers and have become nothing more than government motors, continually prodded along by a government that doesn't understand. I give you X Prize as an example. X Prize offers up awards of a few million dollars to private companies to do what the government and established industry can't. X Prize offered $10 million to any team of anybodies that could create a vehicle that met all current safety regulations, passed rigurous road testing, looked like a car, and here is the kicker, got 100 mpg. Over 300 teams entered, most garage mechanic types or college kids, all achieved more than the current crop of vehicles available from the big three and the winners got their prize. Imagine the work force available to promote and produce these vehicles if the big three had been left to fend for themselves. Hell, right now Ford sells cars in Europe that get over 50 mpg with electric motors or batteries but on gas and diesel. Why don't they sell them here? The government says they can't. It is time for the government to step aside and let private companies and competition win for all of us.

Bain and Romney at no point in time gutted a company and stole the pensions. You keep saying that capital investors do this all the time when in fact the opposite is true and your position is almost entirely impossible. There is no proof, even circumstantial, that this happens in the way you describe.

Me saying that you are ignorant isn't an insult, it just means you don't know. Obvious with your ignoramus comment you were ignorant on what the word ingnorant means. Now you know. You're welcome.

Well I know a local company that was taken over by Cheney, stripped, and then sold in worse shape. Pension was traded for a 401k so more of that money could be kept for the big wigs and their bonuses. The new owners of said company have over $15billion in excess cash, yet they aren't very interested in giving decent health care or wages...

Name that company.

Name you don't know what the hell your talking about! You'd better leave that before you make a bigger fool of yourself then you already have.